Showing posts with label Separation From Sinful Believers. Show all posts
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Family and Their Wicked Persecution

                                                                    


 The bible is very clear on how a biblical faith in Christ and walking in His truth; will cause persecution. 

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 2 Tim 3:12

I want all you saints to be ready and not be taken back by the level of evil from people (your own blood family) you once thought you had a decent relationship with.

Jesus also said that:

And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matt 10:21

As a testimony and for God's glory: I want to share a sad family situation we have just experienced. This is not in spite or hate (we love them all) but to get it in the public record to edify / warn others saints who will go through it themselves. 

My wife (sister debbie) learned that here mother 77 was sick. (we have been separated from them for many years because they refused the Word of God as they keep false Lutheran / worldly ways) We offered to go see them to share love and truth but; we were rejected again. (they refused for me to go as they think I have brain washed debbie) So we both agreed and stayed away to honor God and keep the peace. Debbie's unregenrated family member (who had for years allowed us to be us and have a relationship seeing them/grandchildren twice a year as we traveled) then lashed out at her (and me) angry that we were keeping biblical separation from her mom/dad, that the Word commands we do. (see a link on that topic below) She ended her relationship with her mom and in great hypocrisy she raised honor your mother from the bible. Then as she was angry her mom was separating from her grand mother; she separated from her own mom.  

I do not make this stuff up!

I then lovingly sent a letter of peace/with the gospel to her husband (man to man) to his work in the hopes of reconciling. He knows me well and we have talked God's truth before) He is a public servant and their office address is all over the internet with his name. It was a letter of truth, a offer of a meeting and discussion. (see the words of my letter below) 

We then got a angry fb message from the family member accusing me of things, angry over the letter and saying they would put a restraining order on me! For what; a letter of peace? It is pure evil, wicked and sinful. I guess they hate me because I witnessed the gospel to sister debbie years ago and she was born a new; while they still live in their old sins and want the old debbie back but; she is dead in Christ.  

Here is her last message to us then we blocked her as she cannot speak into our home any longer:


Note: keep in mind these same people once said they loved us, let us visit/communicate, we baby sat in their home when the had another baby, they borrowed money from us once (paid us back) and they were even considering us buying a fixer upper home near us that they would live in/fix up to get a start for them. All that time... we were the same believers as we are today. Were they were fakes and phonies? We just visited them 5 months ago with a nice visit, so we thought.  

Something happened and it appears this family member has been influenced / turned over to evil ways.  

Here is the letter I sent that warranted her legal threats???

"I hope you are well? It makes me sad but this needed to be sent. We love you all and thought we had a respectful relationship. Your wife has chosen to go this route saying things that are not true and has drawn a line between our homes. So be it we say and as I messaged her let there no more communication until you decide to call me and discuss it; we will stay away. For the record, we stand on God's Word and Debbie 100 percent agrees with me on truth of her own accord. Everyone in the family including your wife accuse but they will not open the bible and correct us. We stand in the Word where do you all stand? Traditions of men and feminism will get you nowhere. We offered to come see her parents many times, they chose their false ways and man made religion. Jesus did say let the dead bury the dead...look that verse up. Again we love you all but Gods truth and glory comes before blood family. I know you know the truth as I witnessed it to you before. see these tracts. I fear for your home. Lies were told but we forgive and will pray. I am happy to talk with you man to man anytime. Until then please tell your wife to not reach out again. God be praised / you must worship in spirit and truth John 4:24 / what kingdom are you living for?"

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As I said; we love them all and this is so sad but; we will gladly give up our visiting / communication with them and our grand children for the cause of Christ. We rejoice at being persecuted for His name sake. 

God knows the truth of this all...... 

Jesus also said this:

And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. Matt 19

Please be warned saints as evil is out there and the world (unregenerated family) can and often will turn on you like a mad dog! In this case, it is rabid feminism and hate for the simple truth of God's Holy Word. 

Here is a link on sinful partiality towards blood family

http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/2021/12/family-partiality.html

See this link on biblical separation:

http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/search/label/Biblical%20Separation

May this true story (not gossip and names were removed) edify and prepare the people of God for what is ahead in these evil last days.

God be praised

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Separation From Sinful Believers... Why We Do It?



In the past, I have written and taught on biblical separation that God's Word teaches for those who claim Christ but walk in sin / false doctrines. You can see those article links at the bottom of this page. 

We realize it may be one of the hardest things a saint must do and we have done it ourselves many years ago. The leaving and breaking ties from friends or family that claim God but refuse to be biblical and obedient must be done. It is clear we are COMMANDED to do it and in this article, lets discuss why we do it. While one could come up with MANY reasons, I believe I have the three most important ones gleaned out and I will share them below to strengthen you in this area of the true faith:

1) Jesus said the GREAT command was to love God most. The #1 reason we separate from sinful believers is because God commanded we do it in His word. Since we LOVE Him, we obey as Christ well stated in John 14:15
 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
1 John 5:3 says loving God is keeping His commands.
In short, God knows best and if He tells us to do something, who are we to say, but WHY God? (Job tried that and God put him in his place! See Job 38) 

We do it to obey for God's GLORY, period!

Not sure we even need any more reasons to separate??? but I will offer two more....

2) It is for our own protection / the good of the body of Christ. Sin is like cancer and a small amount of it left alone spoils much (Galatians 5:9) like a bad apple in a barrel. The body of Christ is to be kept spotless so we purge it from all sin.

“That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.” Eph 5:27

In 1 Tim 5 Paul says rebuke those in sin so others will see and fear so clearly there is a reason we call out sin and deal with it.

Also in 1 Cor 11 we see people dying (sleeping) from taking the Lord's body while in sin so it is a protection for us to be kept pure as Paul teaches bad company corrupts in 1 Cor 15:33 

Note: read in the Old Testament that God had them PURGE out all leaven before a festival as that was like sin. Today we are to purge out sin from the body and NOT allow it in.  

3) It is for the sinners own good. When we separate, it is not that we hate the sinner, no! It is that we are calling them out so they will consider it and repent from it. A sinful family member or friend should be warned then feel your separation to then ponder why that is and seek to remedy it. If you sit next to them, allowing sin how will they ever feel a loss? How will you help then be convicted of their sin? Their only hope is to see their sin and repent of it or they will be lost! You are helping them to see their sin by making sin COSTLY!

James 5
Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

If you think it is wise to over look sin, remember the cost of sin. Jesus shed blood and death, so how can we over look any of it, ours or theirs I would ask you?

Apostle Paul in 1 Cor 5 "puts out" a man in sexual sin saying it is for the saving of his soul. (The man who repented was later reconciled into the body.) Then in 2 Thess 3 he says do not even eat with a lazy brother. Eating meals together was a HUGE thing in the first century so that man would be shamed by it all with the goal of bringing him to repentance. 


There you have it, the 3 main reasons we separate from sinful / false doctrine family or friends who claim Christ. 

Note: if you think it is hard to just leave family behind today need I remind you in the Old Testament they turned (and hacked to death) rebellious family with swords while false teachers / sinful family were stoned to death. See Exodus 32 and 
Deut 13
But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you. 

Do see that fear issue again? Calling out sin should make others fear as that is the beginning of wisdom. Proverbs 9 
We need more fear of God these days, amen?

All God asks today is we leave association till they repent.

I will leave you with several other verses to make my point. 

God was always calling out Israel from their sins and to keep the body pure as in Deut 21
Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

Well in 1 Cor 5 Apostle Paul keeps up that same mindset for us today as we indeed DO judge the body for sin:

 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

 God does not really ask that much from us today vs the Old Testament ways as I showed you. All He asks is you honor/love Him first, keep the body pure and that you love your neighbor/ brother by calling him out of his sin. That is godly, selfless love knowing it will cost you something but it is the BEST thing for all involved. Yes just, like Jesus going to the cross for us, amen?

Please do not be an idolater and put your family / friends above God's Holy command to separate from them if they keep sin. 

Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Will you OBEY God today in all things as fruit you know Him?

Here are those articles on biblical separation:
http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/search/label/Biblical%20Separation
  


God be praised

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