7 Reasons to Trust the Pre Trib Rapture by Andy Woods.. Refuted!



Pre Trib


                                              REFUTED!!!!

There is a free grace bible teacher named Andy Woods who made a video called "7 reasons to Trust in the Pre Trib Rapture". 

 Here is a article that exposes the pre trib rapture:
https://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/2017/08/pre-trib-rapture-is-lie.html

 Woods is a modern pastor and he teaches the lie of free grace ( getting eternal life guaranteed without the changed life / evidence of holiness and obedience as fruit your of God, not works.)

 Go here to listen to this at John424 radio
http://www.dontperish.com/john-424-radio-audio.html
( use control F and search 7 reasons to trust in pre trib rapture refuted )

 Mr. Woods calls himself a doctor and is out of Sugar Land Bible church. We tested them and they fail the test of a true biblical NT body. See this link:
https://bewareoffalse-unbiblicalteachers.blogspot.com/2017/07/sugar-land-bible-church-tested-to-gods.html

 See an article on that belief of free grace refuted here:
http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/2017/07/free-grace-theology-refured.html

 Note: we have reached out to Woods but never heard back from him.....

 When studied you will find that a pre trib rapture is an invention of man.  It came along in the 1800's and has grown a lot in recent years. 

 Since we believe God's Word and not these false highly educated men; we decided to test what Woods says to God's Word regarding pre trib. When we did that his idea of 7 reasons to trust in this man made theology go right out the biblical window. Read on as we take each of the 7 reasons and take you through why he is wrong and in great biblical error.

 #1 
Woods makes the claim the tribulation is for Israel and not the church. 
He uses Jeremiah 30:7 as his proof text. 
Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it. Jeremiah 30:7

 Indeed, Israel will go through much tribulation in the last days but it is NOT just for them. 

 Fact: No bible verses tell us the tribulation is for Israel only. 

 First we now know there is no Jew or Gentile; we are all one in Christ per Paul. Galatians 3:28 

 Next we can read about what will happen on earth and Jesus says this in Matthew 24:
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Jesus says unless those days be shortened NO flesh will remain. Does that sound regional or global tribulation to you?
Lastly, we can look to Revelation for more evidence against Woods idea it is for Israel only. 
Revelation 13:7 says this:
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Again does that sound like a regional tribulation or a global one?
Of course it speaks of a world anti christ leader causing GLOBAL tribulation... so Woods is wrong per God's Word on point #1. 
The tribulation is a global happening not a regional one over just Israel.

#2 
Woods makes the very weak claim there is no word church/ekklesia used after chapter 4 of Revelation so they must be gone. (This is called a word concept fallacy.)
This is a VERY weak claim as if you study the topic you will find MANY books of the New Testament bible that never or rarely mention the word church, but the truth is there for and about His body, amen?  
Example: Paul mentions the word church once in Galatians then not again in 6 chapters. Is Galatians for all of Christ's body? Of course it is.

 Using Woods flawed word concept theology:
These books listed below NEVER mention the word church:
Mark, Luke, John 2, Timothy, Titus 1 Peter, 2 Peter, 1 John, 2 John and Jude
SO ....they are not for and about the church/ekklesia? That is VERY faulty bible study. 

Interestingly the word church is NOT even in the rapture verses ( 1 Thessalonians 4 and John 14 ) So do we conclude the taking away/rapture is NOT for the church? Again that is very flawed bible study but they must use it to make their man made theology work for a pre trib rapture. 
Lastly, the word saint is used 59 times in the NT word and it always means a member of Christ true body. Pre tribbers try to say the saints mentioned in Revelation are a "different class of saints" and this is a lie. Revelation 13 clearly shows satan persecutes the saints but pre tribbers make up a special class of saints to make their theology work. Again it is a lie!
Saints are present in the tribulation ( see Rev 13 ) and so the church/ekklesia is also in the tribulation. 
Woods is clearly wrong on point #2 per God's Word....

#3 
Woods makes the claim the church is exempt from God's wrath so it has to be taken out. 
On the point of the church not taking God's Wrath; we agree. But Woods is wrong as he says the church must be removed in the tribulation to avoid God's wrath. If you study the tribulation period the worst of God's wrath does not come till at the end of the tribulation period and even the church being here; it does not not incur God's wrath. 
Fact: Much of the tribulation is Satan persecuting the saints along with Israel.
Also, if you look at Noah and the Ark, The Jews in Egypt and Lot in Sodom; they were all God's people that were here ( not taken out ) during the wrath that came from God. The Lord protected them. For Woods to say the church MUST be gone to avoid God's wrath in the tribulation is a lie that scripture does not support! God can keep His people through His wrath as He did before in the past. 

#4  
Andy Woods like many false pre trib teachers has fallen for the "doctrine of imminence" .
This is the man made doctrine that says the Lord can come ANYTIME so the pre trib rapture has to be true! 
He uses the following scriptures to "so called" prove this theology:
Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.
James 5:8
So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1 Cor 1:7
 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Philippians 3:20
Do you read anywhere in these verses a "doctrine of imminence" / the Lords return NOW or do they just state the Lord is going to return? There is no evidence of an immediate return. The pre tribbers must make this up to help their ill theology work.
Apostle Paul tells us when the taking up/rapture will be and it is very clear!
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Corinthians 15
It is at the LAST trump; at the end of the tribulation not at the beginning of it. 
So again Andy Woods is also WRONG on the doctrine of imminence! 

 Also .... I have a question for Andy:

 If Christ could have returned at ANY time ( per Andy Woods and pre tribbers ) could Christ have returned BEFORE the book of Revelation was even penned in 95 AD, BEFORE the prophecy of Peters execution by Christ and BEFORE Paul preached in Rome also predicted by Jesus?

 If not, when did your ill doctrine of imminence really start Andy?

 It is a big more recent lie of man!

#5 
Woods argues here that we MUST have a pre trib rapture or believers have NO comfort in the future! He says how can you have joy knowing you will go through tribulation? 
This is honestly a silly and quite lame reason to trust in a pre trib rapture for two main reasons. 
First; it it is NOT supported by scripture anywhere. Pre tribbers offer no scripture to support this point.
Second; we as believers have comfort in Christ knowing no matter what we face, He is faithful and able to help us thru it even unto death. 
In fact: Jesus tells us we WILL have much tribulation in John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
So in a way Woods is calling Jesus a liar as Christ says we are to have comfort even through tribulation but Andy Woods says: how can we have comfort in tribulation! 
If we are set on Christ we are over comers, so clearly men like Woods are NOT looking at the biblical Christ but a "get out of tribulation for free coupon" via their man made doctrine. 
Woods is very wrong here as well...even contradicting Christ Himself.

#6 
On this point Woods says the restrainer mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2:6 is taken away so that means the church is gone also during tribulation. He makes the case the restrainer is the holy spirit. Note: This is NOT proven with scripture but only speculation to make their pre trib theory work. If this is true and the Holy Spirit is now gone off the earth then what/who is the comforter for those saints that are in the tribulation time and those who come to know Christ during the time of tribulation? Will they be void of a Holy Spirit? How are they convicted of their sin and shown truth without the Holy Spirit? This makes no sense at all. 
Woods goes so far to say this unbiblical statement:
"the presense of the Christians is holding back satan on earth"
Not one place in scripture teaches this folks, and it is MORE man made up dribble to make their ill way work. 
Note: we do not know who the restrainer is for sure but; we do know this: God was able to restrain the devil against Job, then He then allowed satan to torment Job (via His Word/Will) so clearly God can restrain satan as He pleases at His will. Also God created the entire world via His Word.
So why will it be any different in the tribulation time? His Word and His timing will rule!!! 
Woods and pre tribbers are wrong here once again.

#7 Finally Woods uses symbol parallels... another faulty thought process to aid their pre trib cause.

He uses verses on Noah and Lot in Sodom ( 2 Peter 2 and Luke 17 ) to say God took His righteous people out prior to His wrath coming. 
Again, a simple study of these situations shows God removed them from the area and effects of His wrath. (Lots wife in fact suffered God's wrath didn't she?)  He did NOT take them out of the world at all. Again Woods ideas/theology go directly against Jesus Christ own prayer. 
Jesus Christ prayed this:
I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
John 17:15

In closing....
If we look back at the 7 reasons you should trust in a pre trib rapture per Andy Woods, you will see they are VERY weak at best and NOT rooted in Holy scripture. The truth is much twisting has to happen to get to their theology. 

Remember we showed you Paul saying the rapture is at the final trump in 1 Corinthians 15? This alone destroys the pre trib ideas. 

We leave you with this also:

Jesus Christ gave the signs of His return in Matthew 24 and He said this:
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 ( Christ comes for the elect AFTER the tribulation )
 Do NOT be deceived by the pre trib rapture lie that is made of man.
We believe the pre trib theology is a plot to deceive and make people unprepared to go through tribulation for the Lord. (Satan is a angel of light and very wise!)

God's Word is true and He is able to deliver His people from and through the great tribulation to come. 

 Remember; Jesus also said in Matt 24; those who endure to the end will be saved.

We hope you are one of those enduring saints. 
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