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Sunday Is It the Lords Day? Mark Bullen Refuted





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In my continuing series on testing the teachings of ruling unbiblical bishop Mark Bullen of Living Faith Christian Fellowship, I now turn to his audio sermon on his website dated Sept 2018 / #722
You can see all my posts on him at the end of this article.



In this teaching Mr. Bullen attempts to use the bible to prove that SUNDAY is the Lords day and thus Christians MUST honor it and gather on that day. This is another example of Marks twisting the scriptures to prove his ill view but he never shows it clearly in Gods Word and gets it very very wrong thus he is deceiving others! 

I want to say upfront that: 
there is NOT ONE SINGLE VERSE in the bible that states Sunday is the Lords day, not one verse! I will show it is just another MAN MADE Baptist like doctrine/tradition of man that Mark clings to but Jesus hates! See Mark 7 :6-9 

Mark claims to follow God's Word/Bible in every detail but he really just works hard to beef up his man made "Baptist like ways" vs following the scriptures full truth. I will show that by going through this teaching in detail and marking his errors / the minute they occur on for teaching purposes. Lets get into it for God's glory....

*At the 4:00 minute mark, Bullen uses the early church fathers to say while they are not inspired, they should know the truth as they were close to it and this is important to consider he says. (Then he exposes Tertulian as a false teacher as well, this is confusing???) He mentions that the church fathers in the 2nd and 3rd century all called Sunday the Lords day. But they also taught various heresy, Mark that led to roman cathloic pagan ways.... so whats your point? They also taught we are to drink Jesus REAL blood too and they are wrong!

Note:
The early church fathers also lifted up one man as a ruling bishop too and that is sinful/unbiblical! Mark practices that ill man made way and see it exposed here:
http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/2017/07/one-bishop-in-charge-is-not-biblical.html

While that is true they kept Sunday, again they were also the men that lead the world into pagan roman catholic ways so we should avoid them and stick to Holy scripture for our truth! Mark gives the early church fathers FAR TOO MUCH WEIGHT in all of his theology. 

Moving on....

*At the 7:22 min mark, Bullen uses Psalm 118:19-24 to try and prove Sunday is the Lords day:


19 Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the Lord:
20 This gate of the Lord, into which the righteous shall enter.
21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.
22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.
23 This is the Lord's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.
24 This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

Bullen tries to infer that verse 22 means the day Jesus rode into Jerusalem ( palm Sunday ) is the day the Lord made (Sunday)  and this scripture clearly does NOT confirm or say that.
I ask this Mark? So what exact day did Jesus become this? The bible does NOT say! Bullen also goes into the horns of the alter and wave offering the day after the sabbath trying to grasp at scriptures to make Sunday the Lord's day but it is a vain effort for sure! He is scripture twisting to meet his own man made ill theology as he often does.....

*At the 23:40 min mark, Bullen says that John 20:1 shows the disciples were all gathered together "on Sunday" for a reason inferring ..... Sunday is the new meeting day?

The silly thing about this one is the disciples did not even know Christ had risen yet so how could this be a "Christian meeting day"? More scripture twisting by Bullen.

*One of Marks main points he makes over and over for Sunday as the Lords day is Jesus was resurrected on Sunday. ( minute 21:58 )  But has Bishop Bullen not studied this? A Friday day to Sunday time frame is NOT 3 days and 3 nights in the grave. 
Jesus was laid to rest on Wed evening and thus he HAD to rise before Sunday ( on Saturday ) to meet his promise and prophecy of 3 days and 3 nights. See this article that proves it in Scripture:
http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/2014/04/was-christ-really-crucified-on-good.html

Sadly though Mr. Bullen does not let "Jesus own words about 3 days and nights" get in the way of his scripture twisting and bad theology. 

The truth is there are ONLY 8 references to Sunday in the NT Word.
Matt 28, Mark 16:2, Mark 16:9, Luke 24, John 20:1, John 20:19, Acts 20:7 and 1 Cor 16:2 ( they all say "on the first day of the week".... NEVER the Lord's day )

Six of those verses are references to Jesus rising but as we showed you, He did NOT rise on Sunday at all but; on Saturday.  
( The other two verses, we will deal with as well ) 

*Bullen then makes a big deal that Jesus appeared to the disciples twice on a Sunday. 

He fails to realize Jesus appeared MANY times over 40 days and NOT just on Sundays. ( he even uses a ill method to push his lie by saying at min 26:55 ... "I wonder if Jesus appeared to them every Sunday?" He is suggesting, grasping and twisting as anyone who is discerning can easily see.  

*Mark makes a big deal that Pentecost was on Sunday

It was on Sunday but this does NOT make Sunday the Lord's day. No scriptures support him here.

*At the 25:18 minute mark Bullen says again, that Psalm 118 is talking of this DAY... Sunday
That is a lie and twisting as; it does not say that

*At the 26:36 mark Bullen says they never gathered any other day but Sunday.
Wrong Mark... they gathered..... daily..... per Acts 2:46.

At the 20:51 min mark, Bullen says... we call things the Lord's body, the Lord's table, the Lord's supper... so why can't we call it the Lord's Day Sunday???? 
Again... MAJOR twisting here as he and the heretic early church fathers can call Sunday the Lords day ...but God's Holy Word NEVER does.

*At the 31:36 min mark Bullen says believers are meeting / doing the Lords supper ( breaking bread ) "weekly" on Sunday. ( he uses Acts 20:7)  ... But again this is a lie as Acts 2:46 says this:

And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, 

Here are other verses that refutes Mark's Sunday teaching:

And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.
Acts 5:42

But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
Hebrews 3:13

How do you do that daily thing if you're ONLY meeting on Sunday folks?

By the way, if Mark claims to meet just as the disciples did, does he notice in Acts 20:7 that Paul preached till midnight meaning; either they started in the late evening or they preached all day long till midnight? 
Mark does not meet that way, no! He meets as the Baptists do on Sunday am from say 9 to noon in a man controlled service, nor does he meet daily either. He is acting a hypocrite in this. 

*Mark also uses 1 Corinthians 16:2 to say they were gathered on Sunday.

Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

There is NO mention of a set religious service here and Paul is making plans for a ONETIME offering to be taken up for Jerusalem starving saints. "Lay by him in store" means you store it up yourself.....but Mark fails to mention that as a one time event as he twists the truth to meet his ill end and this in NO WAY makes Sunday the Lord's day

*At the 33:24 mark Bullen says, it is a given the saints gathered and collected money on Sundays". No Mark it is not a given at all and even if we see a few instances of that, NO WHERE does the bible call Sunday the Lords day.

*At the 33:4 min mark, Bullen suggests Christ may return on a Sunday! More inferring but; NOT BIBLE TRUTH!
( Jesus said NO man knows the day  ) 

*At the 34:00 min mark, Bullen again says Psalm 118... this is the day the Lord made, Sunday!!! More conjecture ( lies?? ) but NOT bible truth at all.

*At the 35:00 min mark, Bullen goes into Heb 10:25 wrongly saying this is about Sunday gathering when it is NOT! See the link/article that proves Heb 10:25 is about gathering to Christ NOT Sunday religion. Bullen is a terrible bible teacher

http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/2014/02/do-not-foresake-gathering-hebrews-1025.html

*At the 36:55 min mark, Bullen makes the claim that Psalm 118 is a prophecy about Sunday as the Lords day! This is a lie as it is a prophecy about Christ coming indeed; but NOT Sunday as the Lord's day

*At the 42:15 min point, Mark quotes 1 Thess 4:16 about Christ's return then says... could it be on Sunday??? More inferring but NOT truth from the Word?

*At the 43:00 min mark, Bullen says Rev 4:1 could be about the rapture and AGAIN infers could Jesus return on Sunday??? This is more ill idea planting and suggesting of man made ideas vs teaching solid bible truth

*At the 44:00 min mark, Bullen makes the unbelievable statement...what if your NOT "in church" on that day Jesus returns? This further proves Bullen links Sunday church going to salvation as our massive testing on him shows over and over.
Mark Bullen has a FALSE GOSPEL!!!! 

*At the 44:19 min mark, Bullen says so.... SUNDAY IS THE LORDS DAY! Does he ever offer ANY scriptures that really say that vs just inferring and suggesting his twisted ill Baptist like man made truth? No...sadly he does not

Then to close his teaching.....

*At the 45:12 minute mark Bullen calls the building they meet in the Lord's House showing he has NO CLUE that we are the temple now, NOT any building 

Note: Mark Bullen also quotes the Epistle of Barnabus in his teachings ( see our testing of him ) It was Barnabus who hated the Saturday Sabbath, believed the law against eating pork for Jews was not true but that only acting like a pig was sin, he quoted from the Apocrypha and he had other STRANGE theology but Mark uses him to defend Sunday as the Lords day, not good

Can you see how Bullen programs his audience with lots of suggestion, ill theology and ideas but they are NOT truth in the Word at all. In our testing below we show he admits openly he programs the people in the pews..go read it yourself)  

So where does the bible ever use the term ... the Lord's Day?
Only once in Revelation chapter 1

I need to mention here Mark tried the say that Rev 1:10 where John says:

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet

Bullen tries to tell you this is on Sunday but the facts do not bear it out and here is why:

1) In the bible Sunday is ALWAYS referred to as the first day of the week ... never the Lord's day, ever, not once.

2) John himself uses the term first day of the week in the books he penned.... NEVER the Lords day to mean Sunday.

3) John uses the words in Rev 1:10... as a trumpet... then goes into the futuristic events of Christs return in a vision. If you look into the verses about the Day of the Lord they refer to a trumpet! John is referring to the day of the Lord and His return, NOT Sunday.... in Rev 1:10

Let us NOT forget that if Sunday is now the Lord's day, Apostle Paul was in sin to not teach us that anywhere! He refused to give ANY support of any holy days past or present, now that Christ has come.


Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Colossians 2:16


But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Galatians 4

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Sadly... Mark Bullen is using this made up Sunday Lord's Day theology to CONTROL people to come gather in his religious building (added on HIS house) that he wrongly calls the Lord's house so he can act out his unbiblical Ruling Bishops role. He believes he and his made up "progam" are what saves people NOT the Work of Christ via the Holy Spirit. (Read our testing of him as we prove it all with his own words. )  

In closing, did you see ANYWHERE in Marks teaching that God's Word clearly states Sunday is the Lords day or.......... did you see Bullen twisting scripture to meet his unbiblical Baptist like early church father influenced false theology?

Please know this:
We are to be about the Lord.... daily.... NOT just on a special man made day. 

I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
1 Corinthians 15:31

In love... do not be deceived by men like Mark Bullen. He has many other various false ways including a corrupt gospel and we expose it all to warn others and call them to repentance. 

See the vast biblical testing of Mark Bullen here that exposes his other false ways using God's Word:

https://www.dontperish.com/-living-faith-christian-fellowship-brookfield-mo-mark-bullen.html


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Sunday is the Lord's Day? Modern Pastors ( like JD Hall ) Wrong


Each Sunday in America you will hear modern pastors teaching and telling others that Sunday is the Lords day! ( example pic is one JD Hall of Pulpit and Pen who teaches this same ill lie ) 


The problem is while God's truth is to be taught; they are teaching the doctrines of man. I find it strange that men like JD Hall will rail against the roman catholic church for its errors but; by keeping Sunday; he is obeying what a pagan Constantine started long ago as law. 
The Word of God does NOT teach Sunday is the Lord's day at all. It was men who installed this into their religious false ways. It is just another part of the deception of today's man made ways like roman catholicism and evangelicalism.

See this article that lays out with scripture why Sunday is NOT the Lords day at all........
http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/2014/02/sundayis-it-lords-day.html

To be clear... you can gather on ANY day of the week but to make and call SUNDAY a holy special day....... it is more man made false ways that God hates. ( see Mark 7:6-9 and Jesus own words about that )

Do not be deceived by man made religion. Go to the resources below to see more of their lies exposed for God's glory.

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Sunday...Is It The Lord's Day?


There may be no more heated topic in churchianity than this: 

is Sunday the Lord's Day?

Today most all protestant, Baptist, evangelical and roman catholic organizations celebrate a day with a gathering of its people on Sunday as the Lords Day and they believe this is God inspired (taught) to them. This issue was raised recently in our circle and so I wanted to cover it from a Berean ( Acts 17 ) biblical perspective so we can understand clearly what we should believe on this matter.

There are several sides to this debate that I will explain and then we can see what God's Word says about it from the scriptures.

*As noted above you have the protestant denominations and the roman catholic bodies that believe Sunday is the Lord's Day for them to gather upon.

You also have those who believe that the Saturday Sabbath is still in place and it alone is the Lord's true day to be upheld (still) by all who claim Christ and then there are those who believe there is no longer any special day at all  and that we are free to celebrate and worship as we please and that any and all days are for the worship and honoring of the Lord.

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So who is correct and what does the bible really say without adding to or taking away from its truth?

For this post let's focus on the Protestant/roman catholic view that Sunday is the Lord's Day.
First, does the bible teach us anywhere that Sunday is to be the Lord's Day? No, not one verse teaches us that. Most of the ammunition for making Sunday the new Lord's Day comes from several verses that we will look at and some early writings of certain men then traditions in history but not scripture (that were NOT inspired) after the Apostles died off.

One of the verses they say make Sunday the Lord's day is Acts 20:7
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Here we indeed see that the early church did gather on the first day of the week. But there is no evidence that this was a new special day at all. Perhaps with many followers being Jewish and going to the synagogues, the next day or Sunday was a logical one to assemble upon? Either way, to use this verse as evidence that Sunday is now the Lord's day is very weak at best! The same people who use this verse to say "see the early saints were gathering on Sunday so it is the new Lord's Day" seem to totally ignore the verses where it says they also gathered daily and house to house.

Acts 2:48
And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart

By this they show their bent to prove their own view with some verses to uphold a Sunday gathering while they totally ignore other verses altogether. Do you ever hear them pushing for house to house daily meetings? No, not at all.  (This is called Eisegesis which is pulling out what you want the bible to say and it is not good biblical study practice at all.  Click HERE to learn about Exegesis and Eisegesis.)

They will also use this verse when Paul was talking about taking up money for needy saints.

1 Corinthians 16:2
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

Again this verse talks about a first day of the week event but there is no mention of the Lord's day. It was merely a collection of items/goods/offering for needy saints, nothing more.  Note: the words "let every one of you lay by him in store".  This clearly shows that each believer was to set aside some aid/goods/offering but nowhere does it say they are to bring it to a weekly gathering as many say, thus they are adding to scripture. In the OT there was a Temple and a priest to bring offerings/tithes to. Today thanks to Jesus Christ and His sacrifice, the temple and the priest are the TRUE believer and not any building or modern pastor role made up by man and false religion. They have built a system to take your money and gain control over others.
The believer is to be a good steward with ALL of His money and not just hand it over for blacktop, salaries of men not needed at all ( like modern pastors / worship leaders) and the ever growing building complex that God never ordained!

Lastly, they will rest in this verse by John from Revelation 1:10
I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet

Here John is having a vision from the Lord and they claim the Lord's Day is now Sunday.
This verse itself with a “Loud voice” and “trumpet” suggests a end time event.
See 1 Thessalonians 4:16 for the same words about that same future event.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

We know that the book of Revelation is a futuristic prophetic book and so it seems John was likely talking about future events.

The fact is the bible talks over and over about a Day of the Lord and this is a future time when He returns; not Sunday at all.

1 CORINTHIANS 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
2 CORINTHIANS 1:14 As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus.

1 THESSALONIANS 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

2 PETER 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Many will say "since the Lord was resurrected on Sunday it makes it His Day". But who can say for sure He "was raised on Sunday"? In fact the evidence says He was not raised on that day at all?  
Here is a post on when was Christ really resurrected?
http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/2014/04/was-christ-really-crucified-on-good.html

They will also try to  say that the day of Pentecost came on a Sunday. While this is true; it in no way gives us the authority to make a special Lord's day that isn't taught to us directly in the bible.
We must cling to what we have in the Word and not add it to make man's religious ways fit.

Did you know what is VERY clear in history is that the roman emperor Constantine legalized and then paganized Christianity and he was the one who made Sunday the official day of worship in 321-325 AD?

Fact: Sunday is named for the sun worship of the pagans and it was used to merge pagan ways into the body of Christ. That later grew into the unbiblical roman catholic faith of today. It was a pagan Constantine who made it law...NOT God. Do your research!
See out post on Roman Catholicism here and its many unbiblical ways:
http://spiritandtruthdiscernment.blogspot.com/2014/01/roman-catholicism-vs-gods-word.html

By using scripture to interpret scripture the bible just does not teach that Sunday is the NEW Lord's Day at all. There is no biblical support for Sunday being the “Lord’s Day” today and it is just a false tradition made up by men...pagan men in this case.

While it is true there were various early 2-3rd century writers who claimed Sunday was the Lord's Day and many who practiced it then; we cannot take their views and idea's as infallible truth. They also had many unbiblical doctrines that also eventually led to error and the false roman catholic system we see alive still today. This still does not make Sunday the Lord's day and to do so is to add to God's Word when Revelation 22:19 warns against this.

Now as far as the view of the Sabbath still being in place for today this just does not hold up to the writings of Paul who was commissioned by Christ Himself to go to the gentiles with the gospel.
The Sabbath was given to the Israelites and the word means intermission. It was a resting from physical labor. Now in Christ, it is a eternal rest for all of those who are in Jesus Christ as He finished His work, our redemption on the cross.
Hebrews 4:3
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

While you can gather on the Sabbath if you desire to, but it is not a mandate in the Word. It does appear that some of the Israelites may continue it as Jesus mentions the Sabbath in Matt 24 and the end time events to come. Clearly the Sabbath is not taught in the New Testament for those early gentile believers. Paul in Colossians 2:16-17 really destroys those who claim it must to held to yet today.
 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

You can also read in Galatians 2 where Paul scolds Peter for forcing the gentiles to still keep Israelite ways and customs.

We, ourselves, must reject that the Lord's Day as Sunday and we also reject those who claim we all must keep the Sabbath to fully honor God. The bible does not teach either of those positions. There are many verses we could use but this is just one where Paul said in Romans 14:5-6
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.  He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

In the end, the only biblical position of the three thoughts regarding any special day to gather the body is the one that allows for others to hold a day they decide is special (if they choose to do so) and to never claim or hold other people to what the bible clearly does not teach at all. This is what is done by protestants and roman catholics regarding the Sunday gathering as the Lord's Day. It is yet another example of them using false man made traditions vs the truth of God's Holy Word.

Here is a refuting in detail of a false man who twists and turns Gods Word to make his beloved Sunday Lords Day stick but I refute it easily:

Don't be fooled into vain traditions not rooted in the Word. That is bondage when Jesus Christ has set free those who are born again. We suggest that all of your days and "any day" are ones to serve, worship and know Him in total obedience to His Word; until till He comes for His elect.

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