These are the types of emails we get (often from women) and it is best to answer them here to edify all as the questions/topics are very common.
See my answers below with ***** by my words.
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Greetings, my name is (her name). I am a born again Christian, striving for my faith daily. I was not brought up in the church, nor do I attend any local gathering as they are all sadly corrupt. I have read many posts on your teaching blog as well as your husbands for a number of months now.
***** we hope they are edifying to you?
I wanted to send you an email so you can rethink and look further into the issue of head covering and biblical dress. It appears to me, as one who is looking at your ministry through no biased glasses, that your ministry puts an over-emphasis on the head covering and dress issue as well as 'holy days' ie: Christmas and others.
***** First, you email at a time when the pagan holiday just went by so yes, at that time we do warn people about its sin in December. Second, head coverings comes up often from others so we address it. If you count up the over 3500 teaching resources that we have on our website you would find not a fraction of 1 percentage point is about head coverings or Christ-mass so.... your first statement is a false one.
What you may not realize is that you can be creating stumbling blocks by your teachings that could potentially shipwreck the younger or weaker brethren with it.
***** If you would study stumbling blocks biblically you would see they are not involving OBEYING Gods Word for the NT. They are added rules or the Old Testament ways still being kept for salvation. Head coverings and Christ-mass are neither so your second concern is not valid.
This webpage sums up how I was guided(by study, guidance of the holy Spirit and prayer) to understand the scriptures in regard to head coverings: (I do not endorse these people as I do not know who they are, only their teaching on this subject) It really makes sense when you take all of scripture into account.
***** The website you "did promote" to us is a heretical one that says Paul spent 16 verses on head covering only to say you don't have to do it if you are contentious. (1 Cor 11: 16) How foolish. Read Romans 2.... contentious is NOT obeying the truth. Your third point is not rooted in good biblical study and your supporting ministry is a train wreck with lady pastors.
See our head covering articles that explain it is for today and why:
Also, the apostle Paul tells us how to handle 'holy days' in scripture. And believe me, I have thoroughly exhausted many different resources to get to the bottom of the tradition of Christmas and, like you, I can easily find pagan, catholic and other bad things, but if you research long enough you will find that nobody knows the full truth from history. Many scholars believe that Christians started celebrating that day as Jesus' birthday to combat other false religions and spread the gospel, which is still what happens today.
In the old testament, when Moses led the people out of Egypt, and they built a golden calf, it was to worship something other than God. Christians are not worshipping another god at this time of the year(I'm not talking about catholics, they are a hot mess), most are giving, doing charitable things, sharing the gospel and being a light amongst their unsaved family members.
**** God never ordained Christ-mass and it is NOT biblical to do so making your forth point not a valid one at all.
See our articles exposing Christ-mass here:
Romans 14:1-9
1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Colossians 2:16
16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
It is getting quite late now, so I'll have to get back to you about the biblical dress aspect. I just hope you and your husband are open to loving rebuke as you say you are, as we should all strive to be. I have made manifold mistakes that could have shipwrecked my faith if it weren't for the Lord correcting me, warning me and guiding me back on to the narrow path.
***** We love to be tested and take it to the Word. So far your correction has been shown to be false and not in line with the Word not that you should be correcting a male teacher anyway (later she says she rebukes men)
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Her second email:
Jim,
I am living my life as per the word of God daily, as a Christian woman married to an unbelieving husband, as per Jesus and the apostles Paul and Peter in:
1 Peter 3:1-6
1Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
( Which also mentions why specific clothing (ie: robes, long skirts, the outward appearance) are not what shows your change in the Lord, but it is the hidden man of the heart that shows).
***** Our hearts are indeed changed first ( 2 Cor 5:17 / John 3:3 ) but if your heart is changed, then you OBEY the Word an it commands biblical dress and head covering so your 7th point also fails the scripture test.
1 Corinthians 7:10-16
10And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: 11But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
12But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. 13And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. 15But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. 16For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?
So to say "not one supporting feminist ways as you are" is a complete assumption and false witness against me.
***** Not at all as you came to correct my teaching (via my wife) and your later email says you rebuke men which is FAR outside of your role as a woman per God. So in this 8th point you are into heresy and rebellion; marks of feminism that we suspected all along.
Also, important to note ,is that my initial e-mail was to Deb; sister to sister which is biblical.
**** As the leader of my home, why would I allow an unbiblical feminist woman free access to my godly wife? We do not know you. Woman to woman is for saints we know and see their fruit. We don't know you, so wisdom is to be used. So your 9th point is also struck down when we use good biblical headship.
Secondly, in regard to the website I linked in my first email, I wrote clearly that "I do not endorse these people as I do not know who they are, only their teaching on this subject", I used it only as a reference for explaining scripture.
***** So you sent us a heretical unbibilical feminized ministry to back up your one point. In this you are not helping my home but poisoning it. I cannot allow it. So your 10th point is heretical and even worse than the ones before.
It is obvious that you do not have an open ear and heart to hear any rebuke, and that you are quick to try to make other brethren's words to you as ammo on your blog, pointing fingers under the guise of Godly edification.
***We made some private judgments and waited to see the outcome. You quickly proved the feminism we suspected and I said we would answer your concerns here for all to see. How is that NOT having a open ear? And answering here is biblical and edifiying. On your 11th point you make claims that are clear lies and God hates that. See Proverbs 6
Did you even read my first email? Seems from your answer you skimmed it and began falsely accusing a saint you nothing about.
**** I read it all and my wife and I suspected your feminist ways and you proved them. (You rebuke men and you have NO authority in Gods Word to do so.) For your concern 12 is also falling on its death sword with no truth behind it.
We all will stand before the judgement seat of Christ one day. The Lord have mercy on us all.
Samantha.
**** Amen and we do not want you to do it in the heresy and feminism you are in today. Repent (her name).
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Her Third email:
So to be clear , it is biblical for women and to address women, and yet as a woman I cannot directly address your wife.
***** It can be biblical IF it is on woman's issues and we know who the woman is; a trusted godly saint. You came in as a stranger and expected free access to my home. It does not work that way in a godly home with headship order. On point 13... you expect something you have NO right to biblically.
Interesting. And yet both husband and wives in the bible, sat listening to teachers in the gatherings of believers, where potentially false doctrine could be introduced. And so, the wife would later ask her husband about any questions she may have, and together they would understand false teaching from correct. Interesting.
*** Yes, my wife and I read your emails together. My wife and I saw feminism and unbiblical doctrines. She asked some questions, we discussed it all and I took the leadership to answer you. All biblical and on your 14th point you have NO biblical leg to stand on really.
From Philippians 2 "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling".
**** Amen ... we do daily!
If I didn't heed to the patient guidance of the Lord in my life, and simply followed my husbands ways of thinking, I'd STILL be lost.
***** We're glad you are seeking God's ways but in love you are far from truth and you need some good solid teaching vs internet theology chasing. I offered you that but you were not interested.
I went the right way and tried to talk to Deb, and you filter her e-mail and don't allow her to see it. So you made it impossible to reason and discuss together as brethren are to do.
**** On your 15th point you make a false assumption and you are wrong. My wife and I read all emails together and we decide who answers what and how. Why would I allow a unbiblical feminist free access to my godly wife? (By the way sister Debbie can handle it very easily in the Word but it is my role here to guard the front door.)
If I didn't love my brethren, I wouldn't have bothered trying to contact you in the first place. I could have remained silent.
**** If you were biblical and well meaning you would have emailed, explained your situation (having an unbelieving husband) then ask questions about what I teach on the topics. Instead you came to teach and do what you think you are called to do... rebuke men. So on this 16th point you as again outside of scripture Samantha.
But the Lord has made it my job to serve by sowing seeds and lovingly rebuking my brothers and sisters.
**** On this 17th point you add to God's Word and thus could damn your soul per Rev 22. What scripture in the NT word tells you, a woman, to go around rebuking men teachers or any man? You operate in feminist ways/sin just as we suspected from the first email. We have been doing this along time and seen so much. We are trying to help you.
If you don't want to receive that, so be it, my hands are clean.
*** No thanks we do not want to receive unbiblical false doctrine brought in my feminist ways. My wife was the worlds biggest feminist once and today she is the world best fighter AGAINST it so you won't get past "go" there. Your 18th point has you offering sin and unbiblical ways.
I pray for you both, as you pray for me, and maybe, by the grace of God we can all learn something and be stronger, wiser believers.
***** Amen. The offer stands. If you are willing to take teaching and be shown your errors in scripture, we may all be united one day. But as it is, there is no 1 Cor 1:10 perfect unity to be found.
Repent, we love you!
(her name).
I will not engage further.
***** God be praised
Brother Jim with Sister Debbie
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